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[15:09] <m_conley> hey all
[15:10] <brianxu> hellp
[15:10] <brianxu> hello*
[15:11] <m_conley> brianxu: Didn't see your punchline up on the blog - if you've got a couple of minutes, splat it up there
[15:11] <brianxu> sorry, i was busy on the ticket yesterday,><
[15:11] <m_conley> No worries. :p I know you've been working hard
[15:12] <m_conley> But Karen needs to know what's what
[15:12] <m_conley> Greg too.
[15:15] <bwinton> Speaking from industry, the communication of where you are is pretty much always more important than you getting more work done.
[15:15] <bwinton> (It took me years to learn that.)
[15:16] <m_conley> It seems like communication and collaboration skills are pretty high up there on the "desired skills" list.
[15:17] <brianxu> yep, i learned how to take credits when i was doing coop, :)
[15:17] <bryanshen> I can sense the importance of communication when I was working.
[15:17] <m_conley> Yep - a team that can't communicate is pretty much dead in the water.
[15:18] <brianxu> k, so shall i update my punchline on blog?
[15:18] <m_conley> Yes please. Don't do it for me - do it for Karen and Greg. :)
[15:18] <m_conley> (and you!)
[15:18] <m_conley> (oh, and the rest of the team)
[15:19] <m_conley> :)
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[15:23] <farahj> Hi
[15:23] <m_conley> Hello farahj, robertb
[15:23] <robertb_frantil> hiya
[15:24] <brianxu> hello
[15:24] <robertb_frantil> so close to having free time, just another week :)
[15:25] <brianxu> i have working overnight for couple of days,
[15:26] <m_conley> Yeah, it's been a pretty rough couple of days
[15:26] <bryanshen> robertb_frantil: how were your interviews?
[15:27] <robertb_frantil> Facebook is flying me down to Palo Alto, CA on the 20th for the final round of interviews :D
[15:27] <farahj> Cool!
[15:27] <brianxu> grats!
[15:27] <bryanshen> Nice.
[15:27] <m_conley> Good stuff!
[15:27] <m_conley> I hear they've just put out a fancy new PHP compiler
[15:27] <robertb_frantil> I'm 95% sure amazon will give me an offer after this week's interviews
[15:28] <robertb_frantil> so so far great!
[15:28] <m_conley> that's awesome
[15:28] <bryanshen> Wow!
[15:28] <robertb_frantil> my Google phone screens didn't go nearly as well as I'd have like, so I don't think they'll want more interviews from me
[15:28] <robertb_frantil> and Microsoft is next week
[15:30] <robertb_frantil> after which I'll have reading week to catch up/get ahead on assignments and MarkUs
[15:30] <bryanshen> you're applying for full time?
[15:30] <robertb_frantil> and by march have a firm idea of where the heck I'm going after graduation
[15:30] <robertb_frantil> yup!
[15:30] <brianxu> awesome!
[15:30] <robertb_frantil> :D
[15:31] <jmate> Is everyone here?
[15:31] <m_conley> Waiting on reid
[15:32] <jmate> cool beans
[15:32] <m_conley> indeed. :)
[15:32] <jmate> i'm finally gonna get this change list in!
[15:32] <m_conley> brianxu: your punchline up?
[15:32] <brianxu> yep
[15:32] <m_conley> nice
[15:32] <brianxu> just updated
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[15:33] <robertb_frantil> hello!
[15:33] <m_conley> Hey Karen
[15:33] <brianxu> Hi
[15:33] <reid> hi
[15:33] <jmate> hey
[15:34] <reid> did someone get assigned to run this meeting? or is it me?
[15:34] <m_conley> I don't believe anyone was assigned, no.
[15:34] <reid> okay
[15:34] <reid> i think this will be a short meeting since most people were really busy this week
[15:34] <reid> Although I'm still impressed at the number of reviews that went by
[15:35] <robertb_frantil> they just kept coming and coming, I had a hard time keeping up.
[15:35] <reid> me too!
[15:35] <m_conley> Clustering on Thursday again. :p
[15:35] <reid> let's do a quick round and then we can address any questions
[15:36] <bryanshen> haha
[15:36] <reid> I'm going in order of the names on my screen..
[15:36] <reid> brianxu?
[15:36] <brianxu> yep, so i just fixed 3 bugs
[15:37] <robertb_frantil> *applauds* Bravo!
[15:37] <brianxu> and im starting to look into the UI part now
[15:37] *** m_conley applauds
[15:37] <reid> which UI part?
[15:38] <brianxu> about the flexible schema
[15:38] <reid> great!
[15:39] <reid> Feel free to throw questions out on the list about it because I'm sure we can add any explanation about how it is supposed to work.
[15:39] <brianxu> and also need to finish the test cases of the 3 tickets
[15:39] <reid> okay (I'm sure the reviewers will keep you honest) ;-)
[15:39] <brianxu> but 1 of them is trivial, i dont think we need to test, :D
[15:40] <m_conley> brianxu: We'll see. :)
[15:40] <reid> bryanshen?
[15:40] <bryanshen> I closed a ticket which I started to work on one and a half weeks ago.
[15:40] <reid> yay! I saw Mike's thumbs up on that one
[15:40] <bryanshen> #393. multi-level folder not allowed
[15:40] <m_conley> Works like a charm. Nice tests. Good work.
[15:41] <bryanshen> I was looking at the most recent bug last night, when Severin solved it
[15:41] <bryanshen> Thanks to mike and severin, I get to know some Ruby Magic!
[15:41] <reid> I was hoping that would be an easy one, but I learned a few things from the discussion about it on the board
[15:42] <bryanshen> reid: which one?
[15:42] <reid> about the Ruby Magic
[15:42] <reid> or should I say "Magic"
[15:42] <bryanshen> m_conley: thanks mike!
[15:42] *** m_conley nods
[15:43] <reid> And I see from the blog that you have a new ticket to work on. Is that one related to the Flexible grading scheme?
[15:43] <reid> (I just notice that gabrl reported it)
[15:43] <bryanshen> reid: no
[15:43] <bryanshen> it's something about collection time
[15:44] <bryanshen> I'm going to blog some newbie stuff I leaned this week :)
[15:44] <reid> I'm happy (thrilled) to have you fixing issues like this, but you might want to sit down with brianxu at some point to see how to get the flexible grading scheme completed.
[15:44] <reid> looking forward to it.
[15:44] <bryanshen> reid: yes, we 'll talk about it later.
[15:44] <brianxu> reis: sure we will :)
[15:45] <bryanshen> after all, the flexible scheme is our primary goal.
[15:45] <reid> farahj?
[15:46] <farahj> This was a very busy week for me, but I'm ready to get back to grade entry now. I'm going to update my review request before I finish the functional tests so you guys can start commenting on it
[15:46] <reid> sounds good
[15:46] <farahj> I'm excited to work on the student UI too
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[15:46] <reid> jmate?
[15:47] <jmate> i think I finished off the problem with the validate script
[15:48] <jmate> instead of checking for the executable bit, I try running it and check the error code using $1
[15:48] <jmate> $? ***
[15:48] <jmate> the only issue with this solution is that we use error codes 1,2,3
[15:48] <jmate> and if a particular shell decides to return 1,2 or 3 if there is a file error then this solution won't work
[15:49] <jmate> Anyone there or did I loose my internet connection?
[15:49] <reid> I'm not quite clear on this. Wouldn't you get a different error if the executable simply doesn't run? from p.open
[15:49] <m_conley> I'm hearing you
[15:50] <jmate> p.open does not raise an exception if the executable does not run
[15:50] <reid> :-P
[15:50] <jmate> for example if the file does not exist
[15:50] <m_conley> Correct - it's strange that way
[15:50] <reid> that just seems broken
[15:51] <reid> oh well, I think your solution will work well enough thn
[15:51] <reid> then
[15:51] <jmate> and the other bug I found was
[15:51] <m_conley> Right - let's finish that puppy off, and get you onto something more interesting
[15:52] <jmate> if the admin decides to user a script that does not consume the input from standard in, then the behaviour is unpredictable
[15:52] <jmate> if the admin decides to use a script*
[15:52] <reid> that's okay. There is a good reason to get the input from stdin
[15:52] <jmate> okay
[15:52] <reid> you don't want ids and passwords visible in the process table as arguments
[15:53] <reid> What is your next step?
[15:53] <jmate> looking at will_paginate
[15:53] <jmate> however, I don't believe I will have time next week until Thursday/Friday
[15:53] <reid> no problem
[15:53] <jmate> additionally
[15:54] <jmate> if no one plans to look at the urgent bug for that time, then I can look at that bug instead
[15:54] <jmate> by that time*
[15:54] <reid> I think jerboaa figured it out
[15:54] <jmate> glad to hear that
[15:54] <m_conley> Haven't looked at his patch yet, but probably, yeah.
[15:54] <reid> but I'll have to go check the reviews. we'll need a patch for that in the next couple of weeks.
[15:55] <reid> robertb_frantil? Interviews going well?
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[15:56] <robertb_frantil> Yes! Facebook is flying down to California for the final round of interviews, and I'm 95% sure Amazon will give me an offer from this weeks interviews.
[15:56] <reid> congrats! It could be a tough decision
[15:56] <robertb_frantil> The google phone screens didn't go well in my mind... I don't like phone interviews.
[15:56] <robertb_frantil> and Microsoft is next week
[15:57] <robertb_frantil> but it's not a bad decision to have to make :D
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[15:57] <robertb_frantil> this week I finally finished off getting the tests for random Grader assignment done for release 0.6
[15:58] <brianxu> regarding assign the grader, i have one problem
[15:58] <robertb_frantil> that was issue 510, and I may have fixed 569 where grader changes were not always reflected immeadiately, but I'm not sure
[15:58] <brianxu> for some reason i cant remove the assigned grader
[15:58] <robertb_frantil> ok, go ahead
[15:59] <m_conley> hm
[15:59] <brianxu> im not sure if it happens to u guys?
[15:59] <m_conley> Does that happen on admin-demo?
[15:59] <robertb_frantil> I've never encountered that problem... that might be part of 569 where grader assignments sometimes don't take
[15:59] <robertb_frantil> did you find this in trunk, or release 0.6? it was only fixed in 0.6
[16:00] <brianxu> yep, im on admin, and after i use the random assignment, i cant remove the grader
[16:00] <m_conley> I was just able to remove a grader
[16:00] <m_conley> on admin-demo
[16:00] <brianxu> i just updated last night, is that the latest?
[16:00] <m_conley> it's probably because the interface isn't too obvious
[16:00] <brianxu> alright, let me try again :)
[16:00] <m_conley> what needs to be done, is you select a grader in the accordian that you'd like removed, and then the groups to remove that grader from
[16:00] <m_conley> then choose "unassign graders" from dropdown, and Apply
[16:01] <m_conley> it's pretty convoluted. I think Victoria is working on fixing that.
[16:01] <reid> indeed
[16:01] <m_conley> anyhow, see if that helps. :) If not, we'll look deeper.
[16:01] <robertb_frantil> mhm!
[16:01] <reid> robertb_frantil, what are you working on next
[16:01] <reid> ?
[16:03] <robertb_frantil> I have bug 559 "Allow rubric weightings to be 0 or negative" assigned to me in Dr. Project so I guess that would be it
[16:03] <m_conley> I don't imagine that'll take too long
[16:03] <reid> Hmm. I should look at that one. I'm not sure I like it.
[16:03] <m_conley> I believe you just need to modify the model validators, and rewrite a few tests.
[16:04] <m_conley> That was one of Byron's requests, I think
[16:04] <reid> we should at least talk about the model with Byron
[16:04] <robertb_frantil> no me neither, I'll be looking through the bug lists as well.
[16:04] <reid> If we do that one, then we should also look at giving each criterion a different "out of" value.